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| Convoluted Logic | |
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| Topic Started: Feb 4 2010, 07:58 PM (1,666 Views) | |
| Post #1 Feb 4 2010, 07:58 PM |
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Homosexual Bishop Makes the Simple Complicated The more complex someone makes something that is so simple, the more you can be sure that he is trying to justify a belief that is based on a total falsehood. The Bible is clear. In both the Old Testament and the New Testament homosexuality is decried. In the OT, it is an "abomination." In the NT, it is "unnatural", is a "perversion", and has a "due penalty". However, despite the clear language to Christians is that homosexual acts are wrong, this bishop has to justify that his being an openly practicing homosexual is not an impediment to his being a man of God, part of whose job is to sit in judgment of the actions of others. His justification is that we didn't know that homosexuals existed back then. We thought everyone was heterosexual, and it is only unnatural when heterosexuals to commit homosexual acts. Does the bishop not know that God is omniscient? It is safe to say that God knows that some people are disposed towards homosexuality. Maybe the bishop doesn't believe that the Bible is the Word of God, but just the ramblings of early Christians who had no understanding of homosexuality. I wonder, despite his lifestyle, whether the bishop understands what the word homosexual means. Yo, bishop, do you know what a homosexual is? Someone who commits homosexual acts. Thieves are people who steal. Murderers are people who murder. Using your absolutely silly logic, we could say that the prohibitions against theft and murder apply only to people who normally don't steal and murder. Those who make a regular practice of these transgressions are exempt from their prohibition. What moronic and self-serving logic! So, what's the big deal? We all are tempted to sin. Some have a compulsion to steal. Some tend towards violence. Some have a sexual predilection for children. Some are attracted to their own sex. If we claim to be Christians who follow the Bible, we should strive not to do things we are disposed to do if the Bible instructs us not to them. Of course, we all sin. That is a key point of the Gospel, that we are all sinners and fall short of the Glory of God. So, why should we object to a sinner being a bishop? It's not that he is a sinner that is so objectionable. It is that he is choosing to remain in sin, making no effort to overcome his sinful desires. Well, there are a lot of Christians in that very state. Again, why shouldn't a bishop be accepted who remains in that state? Because it is his job to help others overcome sin and to help them understand what sin is. When he actively chooses to live a sinful lifestyle, he knowingly misleads members of his church about what the Bible says. Normally, this happens implicitly. In this case, it's worse; the bishop has explicitly misrepresented the Bible. Shame on him. We can only pray that the Holy Spirit convicts him to change. I hope he remains a bishop, but renounces homosexuality. If he won't renounce, he should step down. |
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| Post #2 Jul 3 2010, 01:37 PM |
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Hey bro, it's been ages. I trust you are well. Good thoughts here, many of which are fleshed out in this seminar I just finished watching: http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2010/06/23/matt-chandler-seminary-on-homosexuality/ Highly recommended on this topic. (Homosexuality, not the 'bishop') |
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| Post #3 Jul 9 2010, 03:19 PM |
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Hey, buddy, long time. Good to hear from you again. I would've responded sooner, but I wanted to experience the whole message first. And, what a powerful message it was. Yes, the focus was homosexuality and how to deal with it within and outside the church, but the message was so much deeper and broader than that. It could have applied to any behavior that someone hangs on to that separates him from God. The one area that wasn't addressed was someone in church leadership who openly hangs on to such behavior. I would love to have heard his teaching on that idea. Personally, I am going to try to incorporate into my life his teaching on looking at everything as having been provided us by God to find joy in Him. That part of the message really convicted me. Thanks for that. Anyway, don't be a stranger. I know this site has dwindled from its second life. Oh, well. Folks want to yell and scream and berate over the issues we tackle here, and that can't happen. I won't give up though. I am going to keep this site going even if its just for the rare gem that was your post. |
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