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| Topic Started: Dec 22 2009, 09:57 AM (412 Views) | |
| Post #1 Dec 22 2009, 09:57 AM |
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Here's the headline: "Lawyer: Fort Hood suspect prevented from praying." Wow. If the lawyer were right, I'd have a real problem with denying a prisoner the right to pray--even a hate-filled murderer (not "suspect;" we all know he did it). The headline is false. The lawyer is not contending that Hasan was prevented from praying. Furthermore, Hasan was not prevented from praying. He was told that he could not pray with his family in Arabic in certain circumstances. He can still pray in Arabic in private. He can pray in Arabic with a Muslim chaplain. He can still speak in Arabic (or French or pig-latin) in private with his lawyer. He can even pray in Arabic with his family--if an interpreter is present. Prisoners have no expectation of privacy when being visited in custody (except when confidentiality is protected, such as when speaking with a lawyer or with clergy). Communications by prisoners are routinely monitored for criminal activity, conspiracies, evidence against them or others, etc. If Hasan is allowed to communicate in a language unknown to his observers, they might as well not be observing him. The government has placed a reasonable restriction on the activities of their prisoner that does not afford him any less freedom than any other prisoner. This precaution by the government is not only reasonable, but prudent. It is wise to keep an ear on someone who has an expressed and demonstrated desire to kill American soldiers. That's my opinion. Do you think Hassan's religious freedom is being illegally restricted or is the government being reasonable? |
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| Post #2 Dec 23 2009, 08:46 PM |
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| I believe if he is in fact "praying" then that should be allowed. As you said, there must be an interpreter. In that way, we can further assure the safety of our people and our outstanding service men and women. On the other hand, I do not believe that our military (having been there myself) would EVER deny ANYONE the right to freedom of religion. That is something that our military has fought for and upheld for hundreds of years (1976). I agree with you that the "lawyer" is stretching the truth. Sorry, not even stretching but out and out lying. |
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| Post #3 Dec 23 2009, 10:04 PM |
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| The lawyer implied that freedom of religion was being denied, but his statements were essentially true. However, he new the press would misrepresent his claim and stretch it into the lie he wanted pushed. We must acknowledge the consistency of the American press. They were as easily duped and manipulated as the lawyer thought they'd be! |
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| Post #4 Dec 23 2009, 10:59 PM |
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| That's the problem with our "media" as it is now. They are controlled by the government. THAT is not "freedom of speech" as our forefathers said it should be. Or at least as I believe they meant it. It is also not what I believe our forefathers meant for "freedom of religious" freedom. This government has taken ALL our freedoms and our freedom of speech. I am SCARED!. I don't know what everyone else thinks or feels. Eye, please tell me how you feel about our "freedoms". Are you as afraid of us losing them as I am? |
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| Post #5 Dec 23 2009, 11:48 PM |
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I don't think it's so much that the press is controlled by the government. It's just that now the government is controlled by leftists, as the media have been for decades. But, yes, I am afraid that America, as defined by the Constitution is gone. (Not going, gone.) The health care bill is a complete violation, as are many of the other things that the government is currently doing. I just heard tonight that President Obama signed an executive order that removes the restrictions that President Reagan placed on Interpol when they operate as a law enforcement agency inside the US. They are no longer subject to the same restrictions as domestic police. For one thing, Interpol is not subject to the Freedom of Information Act. If they violate a US citizen's rights, we'll never know because we cannot force them to release their records as we can with the police. Terrorists have better protected rights than we do now! |
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| Post #6 Dec 24 2009, 08:30 PM |
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| So, in other words. The American citizens (sorry, but some of us do still exist) have none of the rights that our forefathers faught and died for. I am a veteran. I joined because I believe in this country. I might add that I was in the military during Clinton's reign. But my love for this country was the same. I am glad (sorry) to know that I am not the only one afraid for what has become and is becoming of this United States. Thank you so much for validating my fears. You are a good person. As Dr. Laura says, "In my never to be humble opinion". |
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