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Incivility at its lowest
Topic Started: Feb 6 2006, 09:14 PM (601 Views)
Son N Law
I wasn't sure where to post this. Religion? Politics? The War on Terror? All of the above?

No matter which category you feel to be the most appropriate, though, I think we can all agree that this is the complete and utter opposite of civility.

I can't believe anyone would stoop so low as to disrupt a funeral to flaunt his or her own barbaric political and religious views. And the fact that a nine-year-old child is being brainwashed by his parents and forced to carry a sign reading "Don't Pray for the U.S.A." is just sickening.
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Disgraceful. You can feel that the country is moving in the wrong direction morally without trashing those who honorably died in the service of their country.

On a side note, the author of the article seems to be using the word "fundamentalist" to try to create a negative impression of the protesters. It is not fundamentalism that causes their ugly behavior.
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If they pass a law that gets in our way, they will be violating the Constitution, and we will sue them for that.  -Shirley Phelps-Roper, Phelps’ (The pastor) daughter and an attorney for the church.

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We’re not proposing to silence the speech of the Westboro Baptist Church, as offensive as most of us find that, [but to protect] the rights of families to bury their dead in peace.  -Kansas Senate Majority Leader Derek Schmidt ®

That reminds me of an old quote that goes something like:
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Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins!  -Thomas Jefferson ? (correct me if I am wrong)

Despite all that nonsense, I think this church needs some diversity:
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The church has about 75 members, most of them belonging to the extended family of Westboro Baptist’s pastor, the Rev. Fred Phelps.  -AP

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The U.S. Supreme Court struck down a Florida ban on peaceful picketing within 300 feet of an abortion clinic, but allowed restrictions on behavior that impedes access to a clinic. However, the courts have allowed restrictions on picketing in front of doctors’ houses, saying privacy trumps free speech.

The question is whether a church, funeral home or cemetery is considered private or public during a ceremony, said Eugene Volokh, a law professor at the University of California at Los Angeles.  -AP
What about that privacy extended to your vehicle? Besides that, who really cares about privacy in this matter anyway?!?!? It's called DECENCY!!!

And finally: they preach a literal interpretation of the bible?? Yeah, right... THEIR literal interpretation of the Bible. They must have dropped the passage:
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...He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.  -John 8:7 (KJV)
Unless they interpret it so literally as to mean you can't cast a stone at adulteress women in a crowd with Jesus present if you are not yourself free of sin.

I think I've said and quoted enough.
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I have to say that I agree -- that's just about as uncivil as it gets. Not to mention immoral, hypocritical, judgmental and disrepectful. All cultures that I'm aware of take special care to honor the dead -- of any culture. Even during war in ancient Greece, for example, observed a "peace time" to allow each side to remove the bodies of their dead soldiers from the battlefield so they could be buried appropriately. As far as rights? Right to privacy vs. right to free speech. Definitely one the Framers didn't see coming. The way I see it, unless the government starts sanctioning burials being done on private property (at a person's home, for example), they will have to declare these uncivil people do not have a right to protest at a funeral. Why not declare the cemetary private property? Then, they would officially be trespassing. This just turns my stomach.
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